(2025-12-08) On the "indie Web", real and fake ---------------------------------------------- My recent week had been extremely difficult in every possible sense. However, I managed to stumble upon an interesting phenomenon I never met before: fake indie Web. What do I mean by that? Imagine signing up in a place that poses to be the opposite of big, commercialized Web, "striving to bring back the spirit of Web 1.0", designed in a cyberpunk asethetics, emphasizing on usage of no AI, algorithms, tracking or other modern scum, distancing itself from "the cyber malls of the corpos". The place looks nice and promising a great hacker vibe at the first glance. But then, you open the feed. And get instantly bombarded with words like… Windows. Iphone. Spotify. Apple Music. Rust. C#. "Lolwut? Where am I really?" And then you read the FAQ: > Images aren’t loading? They need a WebGL shader component to render. Enable WebGL in your browser settings. > Stack? Nuxt frontend. Firebase backend. Vercel hosting. Your email and password are safe and encrypted using Firebase Auth. And then you open the CSS styles. Tailwind over the top. And the site doesn’t even display in Dillo Plus because its "Vercel security check" requires JS. Even with JS, the auth doesn’t work on some Android browsers. And then, the more you read the feed, the more you realize all of it is a fucking charade. No real hackers there. No believers in the cause. Not a single person who knows what it’s really like to live in a dystopia (which I’ve been trapped in for the last 4 years btw). Just average lusers with their first-world problems, not having a slightest clue what they are doing, hipsters who think they are somehow different (by going all-in form over function) and aggressive commies who call to silence and cancel anyone who doesn’t agree with their doctrine of conformity. It’s just another fad. Just another pseudo-underground to steal your attention from what really matters. And I fell for it too and spent several days lurking there before realizing what it really was. Social media are doomed not because of all of the modern surveillance and algorithm techniques, but because people (at least their online part) have changed throughout the last 20 years. You can fix the medium but you can't fix the users. They are different now. Most of them already have grown up without any notion of thinking outside the propaganda narratives. They either keep discovering obvious facts as some kind of great revelations, or they seal themselves hermetically within their world of pink ponies and get offended if someone tries opening their eyes on the truth, which can be even uglier than Rust language syntax. This is why truly independent Web can never exist in the form of social media anymore. By the way, I have decided to return to the Web in the form of ad-hoc no-JS microblogging ([1]) and some space for JS-based experiments ([2]). Yes, the second website was created on Neocities, which is a fair effort to support individual creativity from the true early Web days perspective. It even has a CLI program for easy uploading, as well as a HTML editor built into the admin panel itself, also hosting some HTML/CSS tutorials for total noobs. Which, to be honest, is the right way to go instead of forcing everyone into the same design style and decisions made for them by someone else. The more people know the actual HTML and CSS instead of endless bloatware frameworks, the better Web as a whole can be. What if everyone, instead of using a locked down social platform, created their own Web pages with their own unique content, linking to each other’s posts on different sites? Crazy, huh? Anyway, in case you're not doing this, please don't call yourselves "indie web". --- Luxferre --- [1]: https://lynx.luxferre.top [2]: https://ironlynx.neocities.org